NoLineupProposal - Revision history

Dekarl: extend example

2011-07-17T19:31:42Z

extend example

Dekarl: /* unsure, needs clarification */

2011-07-17T16:31:39Z

‎unsure, needs clarification

Dekarl: /* example of extended --channel-list */ switch to format 1 instead of format 2 after looking at the register again

2011-07-17T16:28:45Z

‎example of extended --channel-list: switch to format 1 instead of format 2 after looking at the register again

Dekarl: /* sources */

2011-07-17T16:22:40Z

‎sources

Dekarl: /* example of extended --channel-list */

2011-07-17T09:47:31Z

‎example of extended --channel-list

Dekarl: /* This proposal is in the making */ add structure and example

2011-07-17T08:39:12Z

‎This proposal is in the making: add structure and example

Dekarl: start fleshing out proposal

2011-07-16T12:43:04Z

start fleshing out proposal

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=== This proposal is in the making ===
This proposal by [[User:Dekarl|Karl Dietz]] on how to match channels from a channel scan to channels in the guide without lineups is an alternative to [[LineupProposal]] and [[LineupProposal2]].
The process of configuring a consuming application should be like.
* install application and hardware
* pick a guide source (and do the basic configuration, everything but selecting the channels)
* perform a scan to find all available channels
* the application shall connect the available channels to the guide channels

The API for the consuming application:
* "tv_find_grabbers" will offer all installed xmltv grabbers
* "tv_grab_xxx --configure-api --stage start" will optionally collect configuration data until it says "next stage is channel selection"
* "tv_grab_xxx --list-channels" will list all available channels
(note that the list might be a subset of all theoretically available channels due to being restricted to
# a lineup
# the country for which you bought the guide
# upstream channel selection
in the earlier configuration stages)
* "tv_grab_xxx --configure-api --stage select-channels"

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       <original_network_id>8468</original_network_id>
       <service_id>515</service_id>
     </dvb-service>

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 = unsure, needs clarification =
-* --list-channels shall list all channels that are available on the select-channels stage, allowing to go back and find new channels programatically. E.g. the consumer has a list of all received channels and can compare that to the list of channels provided by the grabber. If a channel without guide data suddenly appears in the --list-channels list the consumer can rerun the select-channels stage and "order" the additional channel.
+* --list-channels shall list all channels that are available on the select-channels stage. In contrast the normal grab will only list the configured channels. A consumer can always go back and search for new channels to configure by calling --list-channels again.
 = sources =

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     </dvb-service>
-on all transmissions (even analog)
+can on all transmissions (even analog) in Teletext packet 8/30 format 1
-    <etsi-vps-cni>dc7</etsi-vps-cni>
+    <etsi-pdc-cni>0x49c7</etsi-pdc-cni>
   </channel>

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 * [http://www.dvbservices.com/identifiers/index.php Registry of DVB identifiers]
 * [http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/pdf/Diseqc/Reference%20docs/recom_trans_para_broadcasters&operators_DVB_multiplexes_using_EUTELSAT_syst.pdf EUTELSAT technical guide for DVB operators] talks about which combination of DVB identifiers must be unique
 * [http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/101200_101299/101231/01.02.03_60/tr_101231v010203p.pdf ETSI Register of Country and Network Identification]

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       <original_network_id>1</original_network_id>
       <service_id>28007</service_id>
     </dvb-service>

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 === This proposal is in the making ===
 This proposal by [[User:Dekarl|Karl Dietz]] on how to match channels from a channel scan to channels in the guide without lineups is an alternative to [[LineupProposal]] and [[LineupProposal2]].
 The process of configuring a consuming application should be like.
 * install application and hardware
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 * the application shall connect the available channels to the guide channels
 The API for the consuming application:
 * "tv_find_grabbers" will offer all installed xmltv grabbers
-* "tv_grab_xxx --configure-api --stage start" will optionally collect configuration data until it says "next stage is channel selection"
+* "tv_grab_xx --configure-api --stage start" will optionally collect configuration data until it says "next stage is channel selection"
-* "tv_grab_xxx --list-channels" will list all available channels
+* "tv_grab_xx --list-channels" will list all available channels
 (note that the list might be a subset of all theoretically available channels due to being restricted to
 # a lineup
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 # upstream channel selection
 in the earlier configuration stages)
-* "tv_grab_xxx --configure-api --stage select-channels"
+* "tv_grab_xx --configure-api --stage select-channels"